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Acotez + Tau - 1750
« on: August 13, 2012, 08:08:13 PM »
Another attempt at running Allies with an Acolyte based list -

Inquisitor Coteaz
4x6x Acolytes w/Bolters, Razorback w/Psybolt Ammo
2x8x Pyskers, 1x Acolyte, Chimera w/Searchlight
3x Dreadnought w/2x TL autocannons, Psybolt Ammo

Shas’el w/Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Multi-tracker, HW-BSF
3x Crisis Suits w/Plasma Rifles, Missile Pods, Multi-tracker
9x Fire Warriors
8x Fire Warriors
2x Broadsides w/ASS, Team Leader w/HW-BSF, 2x Shield Drones

Totals: 1749 points

8 scoring units, 5 firepower units + psybacks/chimeras & the associated firepower from Acolytes/Fire Warriors and two large blasts from Psykers. Only beef is lack of psy defenses.
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Re: Acotez + Tau - 1750
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2012, 09:27:19 PM »
y so unhappy about psy defense lack?

lots of shooting otherwise wht about assault units?

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Re: Acotez + Tau - 1750
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 02:48:08 AM »
doesnt having a psyker in a henchmen squad increase their deny save to 5+?

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Re: Acotez + Tau - 1750
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2012, 03:02:28 AM »
List looks really interesting, I don't think psy defences are that big of an issue; and the only way to shore that up with these 2 codices is with a Libby, which you can't really afford. Although-

Totals: 1749 points

buy another searchlight, for god's sake, this is driving my numerical OCD crazy!

y so unhappy about psy defense lack?

lots of shooting otherwise wht about assault units?

Who needs assault units when all the other guys dudes are dead from bullets?

doesnt having a psyker in a henchmen squad increase their deny save to 5+?

I believe so... Still not that crash hot, considering that if the henchmen are able to be targeted (i.e. outside their bawkses), they can be boltered to death pretty easily anyways, so I can't see Deny the Witch being THAT relevant.

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Re: Acotez + Tau - 1750
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2012, 03:18:19 AM »
If you are bringing bolter acolytes, why not chimeras instead of razorbacks?

More firepoints up top, let more of your bolters fire. AV12 front is better than AV11. As long as you can avoid them getting outflanked. Also, chimeras themselves bring more firepower than Razorbacks.

Plenty of anti-infantary, reasonable anti-tank. Only issue really is getting charged, as you dont have anything that can be used as counter charge, and nothing that will win combat even against a IG squad. But you do have enough scoring that you can afford to leave some acolites around as ork bait.

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Re: Acotez + Tau - 1750
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2012, 08:32:30 PM »
@Chair - psy powers are going to see an increase and they are key to a lot of annoying deathstars out there. They can be dealt with but having a RoWard or Runic Staff just says "you wasted a bunch of points", etc. I.e. Psychoir Nids, Fortune-stars of whatever quality, etc. Add in that psy powers are likely going to be more common and it helps.

Combat isn't an issue still - you lose a squad, and keep shooting.

@Scuz - yes but it's passive, not aggressive.

@Elm - I refuse just to annoy you =D.

@Wyrmnax - Side AV10 sucks and whilst you can mitigate how regularly people get to it, it sucks and will get shot at some point. With 2+4 I can have Chimeras lead early and then Razors take over rather than exposing AV10. Firepoints would be nice but if I was going to do that I might as well get plasma guns/cannons.

Ya there's no combat here but as was said before - deal with it in the same way. Lose a unit, shoot the rest. Not saying I wouldn't like a counter-attack unit or more durable units but this is a list of firepower only :p.
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Re: Acotez + Tau - 1750
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2012, 03:09:36 PM »
Damn you Kirby! *Angrily shakes fist at the heavens*

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Re: Acotez + Tau - 1750
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2012, 02:44:07 AM »
You've got eight scoring units, but all of them fall over to a stiff breeze outside of a transport. 6 Acolytes isn't a 5 man MEQ squad.

I think you'd get much more mileage out of running Strikes in Razors with Tau allies, rather than acolytes. Strikes give durable scoring units, which you don't get with Tau.